User Experience SIG - November 9, 2022

[MarkEWaite (Mark Waite)]

2022-11-09T18:00:00Z

Jenkins UX SIG Meeting 9 Nov 2022

Nov 9, 2022 - User feature flags, web components, UX future

• Attending
  • Tim Jacomb
  • Jan Faracik
  • Jake Leon
  • Wadeck Follonier
  • Thorsten Scherler
  • Antoine Neveaux
  • Fran Fernandez
  • Landon Owens
  • Bruno Verachten
  • Alex Brandes
  • Arthur Caron
  • Julien Greffe
  • Mark Waite
• Topics
  • Security reviews for UX pull requests - Tim
    • Progress report
    • Concerns?
      • One or more pull requests that have been pending for 3 weeks without a response
        • 11 open, don’t want requests in “needs-review”
      • Replace YUI tooltips with Tippy.js by janfaracik · Pull Request #6408 · jenkinsci/jenkins · GitHub - Tippy replacement for YahooUI (prioritize highest)
      • Add search bar for top level settings in Manage Jenkins by janfaracik · Pull Request #7314 · jenkinsci/jenkins · GitHub -
      • fix: change icon to symbol by ealvesss · Pull Request #7229 · jenkinsci/jenkins · GitHub - 23 days waiting
      • Wadeck discuss with the security team to prioritize
        • Discuss with team if we should suspend the reviews
        • Discuss hosting request reviews at the same time
  • User feature flags - Wadeck Follonier
    • https://github.com/jenkinsci/jenkins/pull/7299
    • Will allow UI experiments to land a lot quicker, without needing full consensus
    • Discovery / beta approach
  • Web components in Jenkins UX - Thorsten Scherler
    • [sirocco_based] refactor to be based on sirocco-wc by scherler · Pull Request #158 · jenkinsci/design-library-plugin · GitHub (draft)
    • Comparing jenkinsci:master...scherler:material_ui_checkbox · jenkinsci/jenkins · GitHub
    • Web components intro slides - https://slideswithsuperpowers.netlify.app/1
    • Web components use is starting on the jenkins.io static site(s)
      • Thorsten exploring with code how to separate front end and back end and still retain Jenkins plugin support
      • Tables to divs migration as a possible example
        • Logic in the plugins to support both, then after baseline updated, could drop support for the old API
        • Icons, guava, JAXB, and others have used that pattern
  • UX futures talk at DevOps World 2022 - Tim Jacomb & Jan Faracik
    • Pointer to event
    • DevOps World event site
    • Feedback welcomed, very early days for a redesign
      • Lots of aspiration, lots of different ideas for approaches
      • Feedback on the chat channel during the event
      • Longer term chat in the ux-sig gitter chat channel
    • CloudBees has proprietary plugins that hook into the Jenkins UI
      • What is needed for plugin compatibility with the future UI?
        • Very early ideas being explored
        • As customizable as what we have now
        • Possibly under different jelly components
    • Does the new UI idea mean that we’ll need to update acceptance test harness tests?
      • Seems like it, since they are coupled to UI layout
      • Will be a series of many incremental steps
      • Many pull requests updating things at component level
        • Arrive at the new design by series of increments
  • Open UX regressions
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  • Hacktoberfest results
    • Jean-Marc Meessen preparing blog posts to summarize results
      • Content Security Policy: 16 tickets created, 12 tickets resolved
      • Other highlights?