# Governance Meeting, November 27, 2023

**URL:** <https://community.jenkins.io/t/governance-meeting-november-27-2023/10976>\
**Category:** Community\
**Tags:** meeting, governance\
**Created:** [November 28, 2023, 1:53am UTC](https://community.jenkins.io/t/governance-meeting-november-27-2023/10976 "2023-11-28T01:53:31Z")\
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# 27 Nov 2023

## Attendees 👥

- @MarkEWaite (Mark Waite)
- @basil (Basil Crow)
- @uhafner (Ullrich Hafner)
- @poddingue (Bruno Verachten)
- @NotMyFault (Alexander Brandes)

## Upcoming Calendar 📆

- Next LTS: 2.426.2, December 13, 2023
  - Kris Stern is the release lead, [backporting pull request](https://github.com/jenkinsci/jenkins/pull/8721) submitted
  - Release candidate scheduled for Wednesday November 29, 2023

- Next weekly release: 2.434
- Two week break in LTS schedule: 2.426.3, January 24, 2024 (6 weeks after 2.426.2 instead of the usual 4 weeks)
  - Refer to [developer mailing list discussion](https://groups.google.com/g/jenkinsci-dev/c/vfoiV7HAn94/m/ZHo9h6PSGQAJ) for details
  - No break expected in weekly release schedules

- Next major events:
  - FOSDEM 2024 - February 2-4, 2024
    - Jenkins Contributor Summit Friday February 2, 2024
      - Jean-Marc Meessen collecting agenda topics in [community forum](https://community.jenkins.io/t/jenkins-contributor-summit-on-feb-2-2024-call-for-topics-and-ideas/10689)

    - FOSDEM conference Saturday and Sunday February 3-4, 2024

## Agenda

### News

- Jenkins 2.426.1 released Nov 15, 2023
  - [Ratings](https://www.jenkins.io/changelog-stable/#v2.426.1) look very good
    - 79 reports of “no major issues”
    - 1 report of “I experienced notable issues”, but without an issue number
    - 0 reports of “I had to roll back”

  - Prototype.js removed
  - Java 11 end of life administrative monitor shown to users running Java 11
  - No support for Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 and derivatives
  - Java 21 supported
    - One [Java 21 intermittent memory leak](https://issues.jenkins.io/browse/JENKINS-72325) as reported by automated tests
      - [Script security plugin pull request](https://github.com/jenkinsci/script-security-plugin/pull/543) merged to resolve the memory leak
      - [Script security plugin release 1294.v99333c047434](https://github.com/jenkinsci/script-security-plugin/releases/tag/1294.v99333c047434)

  - Jira issues being watched closely
    - One issue about adjunct removed that needs more investigation

### Action Items

- Mark create issue to drop the weekly build of BOM in favor of human launched build ( **done** )
- Basil create issue to drop middle two lines from BOM full-test label ( **done** )
- Damien create issue to switch agent implementation to virtual machines
- Ulli propose a PR revising the election process to ( **done** )
  - nominate 1 month earlier
    - Proposed the pull request, waiting for reviews, needs reviews
    - December 2 is listed as the transition date, a little surprising compared to end of month or start of month dates

  - only register voters if more than one person is a candidate for at least one position

- Alexander Brandes and Ullrich Hafner run the officer and board elections for 2023
  - Election group closed on [community.jenkins.io](http://community.jenkins.io)
  - Need to prepare for the transition December 11
    - Revise the documentation from last year on the groups that need to be changed
    - Remove Oleg and add Basil to the appropriate groups at the transition
    - Refer to the checklist from last year

  - Timeline
    - Results announcement (December 11)
    - Blog post is planned for the December 11 date (last governance meeting, confirm all changes are correct and complete)

- Mark Waite submit [jenkins.io](http://jenkins.io) pull request to combine subprojects and SIGs into a single concept - “working groups”
  - More pull requests needed

- Retire the Chinese Jenkins site (Kevin Martens)
  - Kevin has started his local Kubernetes development environment to prototype the transition
  - Mark still needs to start his local Kubernetes development environment to prototype the transition
  - Once prototyped, then Kevin and Mark meet with Damien Duportal to review next steps
  - Kevin Martens (Docs Officer) tracking [help desk ticket](https://github.com/jenkins-infra/helpdesk/issues/3379) to replace the Chinese pages with redirects to the English pages
    - Kevin working with the infrastructure team on the Helm charts implementing the Chinese site

- Mark Waite draft a proposal to the board for license policy and phrasing changes
  - No further progress
  - Allow other licenses like the JSON license
  - Some other approach?
  - What license should be used for a library plugin?
    - License of the wrapped library (if wrapped library has no separate code, then seems likely)
    - MIT license as used by Jenkins plugins (if abstraction layer in the plugin, then MIT for ours?)

  - Review responses from other projects to license mixture (e.g. PyPI)
    - Mostly focuses on OSI approved licenses but include a separate category for other licenses
      - Have categories for freeware, public domain, and more
      - Reasonable precedent for allowing a wider range of licenses
      - Needs more discussion, but being more permissive is working for PyPI
      - Newer licenses may be more controversial

- Mark Waite update the governance meeting GitHub repository with the latest meeting notes
  - No progress

- Mark provide details of the attribution for the downloads page
- Basil create the attribution entries for the page

### Community activity

- Jenkins contributor spotlight

- Java 11, 17, and 21 in Jenkins - Mark Waite

### Governance Topics

- Letter of recommendation for a Jenkins GSoC contributor

- [Attribution request](https://github.com/jenkins-infra/jenkins.io/issues/6861) for downloads page from JFrog

- Board and officer elections - Alexander Brandes

- Social media posting status report

- Processing the Azure credits donation - Damien Duportal

- Donation of Oracle Cloud costs by CloudBees - Mark Waite
