# Downgrading Jenkins LTS version and plugin versions not working

**URL:** <https://community.jenkins.io/t/downgrading-jenkins-lts-version-and-plugin-versions-not-working/8427>\
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**Tags:** question, plugin-site, kubernetes\
**Created:** [July 11, 2023, 4:49pm UTC](https://community.jenkins.io/t/downgrading-jenkins-lts-version-and-plugin-versions-not-working/8427 "2023-07-11T16:49:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![sslk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e8c25b/32.png) [@sslk](https://community.jenkins.io/u/sslk)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2023, 4:49pm UTC](https://community.jenkins.io/t/downgrading-jenkins-lts-version-and-plugin-versions-not-working/8427/1 "2023-07-11T16:49:28Z")

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I am using the Jenkins helm chart to deploy a Jenkins instance inside a Kubernetes cluster. I have an instance at 2.387.2 with some plugins installed. When I try to downgrade the instance, by changing the image tag in the helm chart to jenkins:2.375.3, and providing a list of compatible plugin versions for this LTS version, I notice that the plugins do not get downgraded.

Most of the plugins remain at the same version before the downgrade, and I see many errors in the jenkins-master pod logs and on the UI regarding plugins not loaded. I know I can downgrade the plugins by copying the .hpi file into the /var/jenkins/plugins directory and restart the instance. First question is: why isn’t the downgrade working with the helm chart?

I see there are .pinned and .version\_from\_image files in the /var/jenkins/plugins directory, but I’m not understanding where these files are coming from, especially since pinned plugins are no longer used in Jenkins versions 2.xxx. I tried deleting these files but this did not help. Second question is: where do these two files come from, and what does the .version\_from\_image file mean?

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**Author:** ![poddingue](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/community.jenkins.io/poddingue/32/985_2.png) [@poddingue](https://community.jenkins.io/u/poddingue)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2023, 8:16am UTC](https://community.jenkins.io/t/downgrading-jenkins-lts-version-and-plugin-versions-not-working/8427/2 "2023-07-26T08:16:04Z")

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Hello @sslk ,

Could this workflow help you?

> **[How to remove deprecated plugins from Jenkins while using Docker](https://www.jenkins.io/blog/2023/06/20/remove-outdated-plugins-while-using-docker/)**
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